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**R13** · May 4th, 2010, 09:54 PM

I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. - James Baldwin

**sup-rbeast** · May 4th, 2010, 10:29 PM

You sure picked a hell of a somebody to quote..a citizen who loved his country so much he left. And additionally, he didn't have the balls to criticize America unless he did it from afar or unless he had someone to protect him. If those are the kinds of folks you look up to, there's no wonder you are as mixed up as you are.

**UTVols2** · May 4th, 2010, 10:48 PM

Wow I can't believe I have missed this thread, where have I been????

Anyway, IMO the "American Flag" is not just a piece of cloth and the "National Anthem" is not just a symbol. Again this is just my opinion but I was brought up to respect both. In High School I was one of two lucky people who got to "take care" of the flag my senior year. We would raise it up the pole in the morning and take it down after school. The flag when taken down was folded correctly and sealed in a glass case. I took tremendous pride in doing this, I wonder if they still do that anymore.

**R13** · May 4th, 2010, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by sup-rbeast

You sure picked a hell of a somebody to quote..a citizen who loved his country so much he left. And additionally, he didn't have the balls to criticize America unless he did it from afar or unless he had someone to protect him. If those are the kinds of folks you look up to, there's no wonder you are as mixed up as you are.

What the hell are you talking about? He went to Paris for mainly his writing career, then to escape the hate back here in this great country, pretty much exile. He came back and was a huge political and social activist, HERE IN THE US, and a big figure in the civil rights movement - HERE IN THE US. Might want to go brush up on your history a little bit, because you're about as wrong as wrong gets. "Criticize from afar" LMAO.

And you talked about how "mixed up" and "wrong" I am, but never prove me wrong, pretty funny.

**Milk3** · May 4th, 2010, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

And C-dawg, you need to watch your mouth, I know the kids parents, they are great people and would never teach their kid something like this. You know his parents as well, and its ridiculous for you to even put something like that when you know **** well its not true.

Thank you Biggin.I wanted to comment on that but you beat me too it

**UKCATS** · May 4th, 2010, 11:57 PM

The kid is one of Phil"s boys(he plays football). He may not play baseball again this year but thats all he will get. He will not get ISS or OSS. Phil will take care of him. The sad thing is that if somebody that didn't play football or have a certain last name would have did it he would have gotten the book thrown at him. But thats how it is in BSG you have the ones that you protect and the ones you crap on. The important thing is will the Kid learn anything or just realize that he can do what ever he wants because he knows nothing much will happen to him.

**Milk3** · May 5th, 2010, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by UKCATS

The kid is one of Phil"s boys(he plays football). He may not play baseball again this year but thats all he will get. He will not get ISS or OSS. Phil will take care of him. The sad thing is that if somebody that didn't play football or have a certain last name would have did it he would have gotten the book thrown at him. But thats how it is in BSG you have the ones that you protect and the ones you crap on. The important thing is will the Kid learn anything or just realize that he can do what ever he wants because he knows nothing much will happen to him.

really? Give me a break.

**Jason** · May 5th, 2010, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by R13

He did it because all the great patriots were supposed to be "showing their respect", but obviously we have some commies in the stands that were looking at this kids pecker.

Kind of hard to look at the flag when some kid pulls his pecker out!

And yes the American flag is sacred to many. I have mixed feeling about the US flag myself due to my Native American Ancestry. One way I look at it is like the blacks look at the Confederate flag. The blacks thought they had it bad. Dont recall ever reading where Confederate soldiers wore the wombs of black women on their hats. I have read about US soldiers wearing the wombs of indians on their hats while waving the US flag parading through towns. I was watching CNN awhile back and one of the black reporters said that the Confederates were Terrorists and the Confederate flag stood for terrorism. He fails to realize that most Natives think the same thing of the US flag. 1977homelandsecurity

With all that said I unlike others do not blame the flag for that part of history. The flag to me is about those that fight now to keep what little freedom we have left. The flag is about those that have lost their lives for us. So I dont care if the kid was seen by 1 person, 1,000 people, or if no one saw him. It was wrong and when he ****ed during the anthem I feel like he was ****ing not on the mound but in the faces of our living heroes and on the graves of those that lost their lives for that piece of cloth. I have two great flags(symbols) in my life. One being the US Flag. The other is the flag of the Eastern Band of Cherokees.

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